[KIDS] visual grading and manual mask production

Mario Radovich mario.radovich at oapd.inaf.it
Wed Apr 10 18:28:22 CEST 2013


Dear Hugo

Automatic masks are available as FITS, but not manual masks at the 
moment (only the combined automatic+manual).  I think that  it should 
not be difficult modify Joey's scripts to do that: I can try to ask him, 
or give a look myself (not before next week, I am afraid...). Is that 
urgent ?

Cheers

     Mario


On 04/10/2013 06:22 PM, Hugo Buddelmeijer wrote:
> Hi Mario,
>
> Okay, it wasn't clear to me that the *.msk.v1.0.all.* are the combined 
> masks.
>
> Then my question becomes: are the automatic and manual masks (as FITS) 
> available as well? [I suppose these could be reconstructed from the 
> combined masks..]
>
> Within Astro-WISE everything has full data lineage. That is, we ingest 
> the combined masks with references to the automatic and manual masks 
> from which it is created. Therefore, it is (formally) not possible to 
> ingest the combined masks without its dependencies. I can work around 
> this, but prefer not to, because that way it is not clear how the 
> masks are created, defeating purpose of the data lineage.
>
> E.g. these files, but for the latest run of KIDSCAT:
> http://vstportal.oacn.inaf.it/KIDSCAT/ESO_DR1/Masks/
>
> Hugo
>
> On 04/10/2013 06:07 PM, Mario Radovich wrote:
>> Dear Hugo
>>
>> the *.msk.v1.0.all.* are the automatic masks including the manual masks,
>> when available.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>    Mario
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/10/2013 05:52 PM, Hugo Buddelmeijer wrote:
>>> Thanks Francesco! Great work
>>>
>>> The files are being downloaded as we speak and I will start ingesting
>>> them tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Are all the masks available as well? I can only find the
>>> *.msk.v1.0.all.* ones. As per the naming convention these are only the
>>> automatic masks, are there also manual masks and combined masks for
>>> the ones where manual regions files have been created?
>>>
>>> [Perhaps I misunderstood things. I was under the impression that we
>>> would create catalogs using the manual masks when available.]
>>>
>>>
>>> A telecon tomorrow (see the rest of the mails) would be fine with me
>>> if necessary. Preferably after 13:30.
>>>
>>> My most relevant contribution would be that I would prefer it if any
>>> new files will be in new directories. That is, that it is certain that
>>> a file at a specific url has to be downloaded only once because it
>>> will never change. That makes bookkeeping for me much easier.
>>>
>>> Hugo
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/10/2013 02:53 PM, Francesco La Barbera wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to inform you that the new sourcelists have been produced 
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> Hugo, you can access them for AW ingestion at the same link as last
>>>> time, i.e.
>>>>
>>>> http://vstportal.oacn.inaf.it/KIDSCAT/ESO_DR1_kc1.6/
>>>>
>>>> I checked that all files are in place, and there was no evident issue
>>>> with all different data products.
>>>> The sourcelists have been generated with the new, latest, masks passed
>>>> me by Mario and Nicola,
>>>> and using KIDS-CAT v.1.6 (that includes sat mag and ellipticity
>>>> estimates).
>>>>
>>>> Pls, lemme know if everything is OK with this.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Francesco
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gijs Verdoes Kleijn
>>>> <verdoes at astro.rug.nl <mailto:verdoes at astro.rug.nl>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Dear Nicola and Mario and Hugo,
>>>>
>>>>     How is the automated mask + sourcelist production going?
>>>>
>>>>     I am now coordinating the visual grading and manual mask 
>>>> production.
>>>>     My plan is to have that team start to work on all coadds at
>>>>     is_valid=1 and 2 asap.
>>>>     (NB: all coadds that will be re-processed this week are now set to
>>>>     is_valid=0)
>>>>
>>>>     As far as I see this effort is decoupled (enough) from your
>>>>     mask+sourcelist effort and there can start now. I will tell the
>>>>     manual mask team to anticipate improvement on the current 
>>>> automated
>>>>     masks. And hence start no manually improving those.
>>>>
>>>>     Please let me know if you see problems with this decoupled 
>>>> parallel
>>>>     effort.
>>>>
>>>>     Best wishes, Gijs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 04/08/2013 11:04 PM, Nicola R. Napolitano wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     OK Lino. Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>     N
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 4/8/13 8:41 PM, aniello grado wrote:
>>>>>>     Hi Nicola,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     the manual masks are on beo3 in the dir:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     /opt/AW/current/astro/experimental/kids/regionfiles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Lino
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Nicola R. Napolitano
>>>>>>     <napolita at na.astro.it <mailto:napolita at na.astro.it>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Hi Lino,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         automatic masking is about to start. Mario and I are still
>>>>>>         struggling with the g-band but we should be able to work 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>         out by the end of the day.
>>>>>>         Meanwhile r,i,u are ready to go after we have checked the
>>>>>>         spike length, which needs just some more very short visual
>>>>>> test.
>>>>>>         This means that auto-masks will be possibly ready tomorrow
>>>>>>         morning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         To start the sourcelists extraction, though, we need to
>>>>>>         incorporate the manual masks into the auto masks, since the
>>>>>>         idea is to provide a unique flag in the catalogs.
>>>>>>         Thus we need to know whether the final manual masks are also
>>>>>>         ready for the download. If so please give to Mario the
>>>>>>         necessary references for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Nicola
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 4/6/13 3:55 PM, aniello grado wrote:
>>>>>>>         Hi Mario and Nicola,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         the coadds are ready for automatic masking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Lino
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>         From: <jelte at strw.leidenuniv.nl
>>>>>>>         <mailto:jelte at strw.leidenuniv.nl>>
>>>>>>>         Date: Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 2:24 PM
>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: reprocessing and is_valid = 1 coadds
>>>>>>>         To: Gijs Verdoes Kleijn <verdoes at astro.rug.nl
>>>>>>>         <mailto:verdoes at astro.rug.nl>>, Lino Grado
>>>>>>>         <agrado at na.astro.it <mailto:agrado at na.astro.it>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Hi Gijs and Lino,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         just to let you know that reprocessing is done now.
>>>>>>>         We now have again 200 DR1 coadds:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         awe> query = Comment.content == 'KiDS-ESO-DR1-Coadd'
>>>>>>>         awe> list = 
>>>>>>> [CoaddedRegriddedFrame(object_id=c.db_object_id)
>>>>>>>         for c in query]
>>>>>>>         awe> len(list)
>>>>>>>         200
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         The total number of reprocessed coadds is 50:
>>>>>>>         awe> query = Comment.content ==
>>>>>>>         'KiDS-ESO-DR1-Coadd-Reprocessed-After-QA1'
>>>>>>>         awe> list = 
>>>>>>> [CoaddedRegriddedFrame(object_id=c.db_object_id)
>>>>>>>         for c in query]
>>>>>>>         awe> len(list)
>>>>>>>         50
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Querying for the comment 'KiDS-ESO-DR1-Coadd-DISCARDED' 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>         also give 50
>>>>>>>         coadds, namely the ones replaced by the reprocessed coadds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         From the 74 is_valid=0 coadds, 24 were not reprocessed 
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>         according to
>>>>>>>         the reprocessing teams there was no improvement possible.
>>>>>>>         These coadds
>>>>>>>         that are retained in DR1 can be recognized by the comment
>>>>>>>         'KiDS-ESO-DR1-Coadd-Retained-After-QA1':
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         awe> query = Comment.content ==
>>>>>>>         'KiDS-ESO-DR1-Coadd-Retained-After-QA1'
>>>>>>>         awe> list = 
>>>>>>> [CoaddedRegriddedFrame(object_id=c.db_object_id)
>>>>>>>         for c in query]
>>>>>>>         awe> len(list)
>>>>>>>         24
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Cheers,
>>>>>>>         Jelte
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         > Hi Gijs and Lino,
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > reprocessing is almost done.
>>>>>>>         > There were still 3 coadds that needed to be reprocessed
>>>>>>>         and that is
>>>>>>>         > currently being done.
>>>>>>>         > Over the weekend I will update their comments etc, and
>>>>>>>         notify Mario so
>>>>>>>         > he can download the new ones for source extraction.
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > I have also put a table on the wiki with the coadds that
>>>>>>>         were set to
>>>>>>>         > is_valid = 1 during the visual inspection (QA1):
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>> http://wiki.astro-wise.org/projects:kids:data_deliveries:kids-eso-dr1:productiondashboard#coadd_set_to_is_valid_1_during_qa1 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         > Also included in the table (where it was clear to me) is
>>>>>>>         the reasons why
>>>>>>>         > the visual inspection team thinks these coadds could be
>>>>>>>         improved if
>>>>>>>         > there is enough time.
>>>>>>>         > We should set up a dedicated team that can have a look at
>>>>>>>         these coadds
>>>>>>>         > next week to see which ones can be improved by
>>>>>>> reprocessing.
>>>>>>>         > In any case our goal should be to have all final 
>>>>>>> coadds by
>>>>>>>         next Friday
>>>>>>>         > (April 12).
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > Cheers,
>>>>>>>         > Jelte
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > --
>>>>>>>         > Dr. Jelte T. A. de Jong
>>>>>>>         > KiDS project manager
>>>>>>>         > Sterrewacht Leiden
>>>>>>>         > Leiden University, Leiden, the Netherlands
>>>>>>>         > E: jelte at strw.leidenuniv.nl
>>>>>>> <mailto:jelte at strw.leidenuniv.nl>
>>>>>>>         > T: +31-(0)715275818 <tel:%2B31-%280%29715275818>
>>>>>>>         > W: jelte.jdejong.net <http://jelte.jdejong.net>
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         --
>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Aniello Grado, PhD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Ricercatore Astronomo
>>>>>>>         INAF- Osservatorio Astronomico di Capodimonte
>>>>>>>         Via Moiariello 16 80131 Napoli
>>>>>>>         ITALIA
>>>>>>>         Tel: 0039 0815575547 <tel:0039%200815575547>
>>>>>>>         Fax: 0039 0815575433 <tel:0039%200815575433>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         --
>>>>>>         Nicola R. Napolitano
>>>>>>         Research Astronomer
>>>>>>         INAF - Observatory of Capodimonte
>>>>>>         Salita Moiariello, 16, 80131, Napoli (Italy)
>>>>>>         phone:+39 081 5575509 <tel:%2B39%20081%205575509>; fax:+39
>>>>>> 081 456710 <tel:%2B39%20081%20456710>
>>>>>>         email:napolita at na.astro.it <mailto:napolita at na.astro.it>
>>>>>>         web page:http://www.na.astro.it/~napolita
>>>>>> <http://www.na.astro.it/%7Enapolita>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     --
>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Aniello Grado, PhD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Ricercatore Astronomo
>>>>>>     INAF- Osservatorio Astronomico di Capodimonte
>>>>>>     Via Moiariello 16 80131 Napoli
>>>>>>     ITALIA
>>>>>>     Tel: 0039 0815575547 <tel:0039%200815575547>
>>>>>>     Fax: 0039 0815575433 <tel:0039%200815575433>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     --
>>>>>     Nicola R. Napolitano
>>>>>     Research Astronomer
>>>>>     INAF - Observatory of Capodimonte
>>>>>     Salita Moiariello, 16, 80131, Napoli (Italy)
>>>>>     phone:+39 081 5575509 <tel:%2B39%20081%205575509>; fax:+39 081
>>>>> 456710  <tel:%2B39%20081%20456710>
>>>>>     email:napolita at na.astro.it <mailto:napolita at na.astro.it>
>>>>>     web page:http://www.na.astro.it/~napolita
>>>>> <http://www.na.astro.it/%7Enapolita>
>>>>
>>>>     --
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>
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